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John McCain was a POW?

One of the things we admire about the so-called Greatest Generation is that its members didn’t whine and bitch about their experiences. There was a fascist, would-be world dictator seeking to impose his totalitarian will on the world, invading countries left and right, and they had to stop him. So, they got on a boat, or a plane, went to Europe and the Pacific, and kicked ass. Then they came home and got back to work, living their lives, overcoming wartime injuries and trauma because that was simply how you did it.

When you have every right to bitch and complain, but you don’t, you have a little thing called strength of character. And compared to today’s generation, for which a malfunctioning iPhone is pretty much the end of the entire known universe, that attitude is kind of cool.

Unfortunately, John McCain hasn’t been exhibiting any of that lately. Instead, he’s trying to shamelessly use his POW experience to defend himself against things that have not a damn thing to do with being a POW. And it’s not only getting old, it’s getting embarrassing.

A caveat here: We at Various Things & Stuff have never served in any branch of the military, never fired a shot in anger nor heard one fired at us, never learned to fly a combat airplane off a carrier into hostile enemy territory, never had to face the fear of capture by an enemy and years of torture at their hands. We get to sit in a semi-comfortable office and type things on our keyboard because other people did that for us, and for that, those people (including McCain) have our gratitude.

On the other hand, we don’t believe it is necessary for us to have done any of that in order to be able to say this: McCain can’t use his wartime capture as a dodge. And he’s trying to do just that.

We once heard McCain — at Cashman Field, in fact — compare himself to then-Congressman Jim Gibbons by joking that the difference between them was Gibbons managed to not get shot down when flying over hostile territory during the Vietnam War. Dude had a sense of humor about it, one that was pretty endearing. But that was a long time ago, and McCain has certainly changed. (Oh, and we should note that McCain and Gibbons are actually more similar than McCain would like to admit, but that’s another post for another day.)

Now, having failed to recall how many houses his family owns, McCain is going around yelling “But I was a POW! I was a POW!” to change the subject. Exaggeration? Not by much. Check out what he told Jay Leno on The Tonight Show last night when the house issue arose:

Could I just mention to you, Jay, that in a moment of seriousness, I spent five-and-a-half years in a prison cell. I didn’t have a house, I didn’t have a kitchen table, I didn’t have a table, I didn’t have a chair. I spent those five-and-a-half years not because I wanted to get a house when I got back home.

In fact, McCain spent those five-and-a-half years in a prison cell because some North Vietnamese gunner was better at firing triple-A than McCain was at dodging it. But that’s not important here. What’s important here is this: What the fuck does McCain spending those five-plus years as a POW have to do with how many houses he and his wealthy second wife own in 2008? What is the possible nexus of one to the other?

Answer: Nothing, and none. To even bring it up is to try to use his thus-far honorable service to the country as a get-out-of-political-trouble free card, and that’s simply illegitimate.

There are some who would criticize McCain for his wartime service, saying his bomb-droppings on North Vietnam don’t qualify him for the sympathy we should reserve for the innocent victims of that war. We won’t go there; McCain was fighting America’s enemies in a lawful, if lamentable, military action. Because of that, he’s earned our respect. But by doing what he’s doing in a naked attempt to shut up his critics on an issue that can really wound him politically, he’s rapidly losing any respect he’s earned.

Maybe it’s time for him to take a lesson from the Greatest Generation?

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8 Responses to “John McCain was a POW?”

“Neno V” You’re behind the times there buddy and the old rules don’t apply! We now teach soldiers that “Every man has a breaking point - it’s just a matter of time before you will be broken and talk!”

But, then, we teach them how to give very convincing misinformation and use disinformation to “talk” without giving up any accurate information that is sensitive!

Upon being rescued or released, we do expect our P.O.W.’s to “come clean” about anything they may have said, or any other information they have to help our Military Intel!

There is no shame in being broken - and being a P.O.W. only qualifies one as a prisoner - it does NOT qualify anyone to be President!

All of us respect and honor the military service of all our veterans - there’s no question about that!

But, quite candidly, many combat vets are really disappointed in how McCain is blatantly abusing his P.O.W. background into celebrity status for his own selfish political purposes - that’s not the sort of humility we expect from our heros!

I think you’re stuck in the past and old ideas and out dated standards, like McCain, we need to put the past behind us and stop making the same mistakes, over and over, and expecting a different result - that’s the definition of insanity!

Obama/Biden ‘08!

Written by: Johnathan L. Abbinett on Saturday, Sep. 6, 2008 at 6:48 PM

I think it’s despicable for army Colonel Earl Hopper to be ratting out John McCain for helping the North Vietnamese to set up defensive positions for future air raids and escape routes of U.S. Navy bombers. There’s an unwritten, but well understood, rule amongst soldiers that “what happens in POW camps stays in POW camps,” and Hopper knows this rule very well. To bring up McCain’s collaboration with the enemy 35 years ago and reveal that the Vietnamese nickname for him was “Songbird”, now that he’s running for the Presidency, is truly playing dirty tricks Obama style. People who have never been in such a situation think that everyone can be a Jack Bauer character like on the TV show 24 and withstand all sorts of torture. John didn’t want to go through all this torture and, knowing he would eventually talk, simply avoided the torture and told them what they wanted to know before hand. He’s not the only one, I can assure you, and I don’t think that it should disqualify him from running for the Presidency.

Written by: Neno V. on Saturday, Sep. 6, 2008 at 5:31 PM

Robert, senior executive level service in the military may well count when it involves some level of leadership - that’s where you’re not getting it dude!

Managing flying an aircraft doesn’t even require any level of leadership - being a bonafide leader, as in the case of Gen. Wes Clark - that counts big time!

Commanding a PT Boat like JFK or John Kerry - well, at least, there was some leadership involved in those positions.

Refusing to take a flight physical because you’ve got drugs in your system and won’t pass the exam, then going AWOL - that counts too AGAINST YOU!

Knowing that not all military service is equal, kind of goes without saying - and we do respect the suffering McCain had to endure as a POW - but, it does not qualify him to be a prison warden, let alone the President of the United States!

I hope this helped your head to stop spinning and you now “get it” TOO?

Written by: Johnathan L. Abbinett on Tuesday, Aug. 26, 2008 at 10:05 PM

So here we go again, military service doesn’t count now for a presidential candidate. Funny how the rules continually change. Bill Clinton-draft dodger-but hey, that’s ok because military service or lack of military service shouldn’t be held against him. George Bush, well Democrats don’t like him so his military service-National Guard- is to be used against him and mocked. John Kerry, Democrats liked him so he was made into a “hero” and his military service was exploited for all it was worth by him and his fellow Democrats. Now, were back to a Republican with not only military service under his belt, but a bonafide POW. And what do we get from liberal Democrats now? McCain should shut up about his service to his country because it has become tiresome hearing about it. My head is spinning from trying to keep up with the rule changes every presidential election.

Written by: Robert on Tuesday, Aug. 26, 2008 at 8:49 PM

When McCain was in the POW camp he did have a home and he did have a table. They were being taken care of by his wife that he would return to and divorce for rich and pretty Cindy. What he didn’t have was heart or a soul.

Written by: The Guy By The Door on Tuesday, Aug. 26, 2008 at 5:37 PM

I have earned the honor - I was in Vietnam at 18 and 19 - and went on to serve 22 years in the Army - so, I do “get it” but, thanks for recommending people do a little research!

Since you brought up doina a little research - you might want to take your own advice “dave404″ (if that’s your real name)?

Written by: Johnathan L. Abbinett on Tuesday, Aug. 26, 2008 at 4:59 PM

Andy Rooney said it best about being an ex-GI. I’m a Vietnam Vet. I get it.

You’ll have to earn the honor of knowing what Rooney said by doing a little research yourselves; McCain should follow Rooney’s lead. Classic and classy.

Written by: dave404 on Tuesday, Aug. 26, 2008 at 4:50 PM

Well said Steve! At the recent Disabled American Veterans National Conference here in Vegas our own Tammy Ducworth was honored as the the Disabled Veteran of the Year. One of our D.A.V. members stood up and asked “So, why is Tammy Duckworth a member of the D.A.V. and McCain isn’t - when he’s eligble too?”

That raised some eyebrows!

Then, another asked “Hey, isn’t it still rule #1 to NOT get caught?” Then went on to say, “Tammy got both her legs blown off and shot down - but, she didn’t get caught!”

McCain also got asked “Why he didn’t support the same G.I. Bill benefits that he enjoyed for our newest generation of veterans?” To which he replied, “there were a number of problems, including a lot of unnecessary earmarks, that you guys probably didn’t know about or fully understand behind my position.” Which was a typical line of bull!

You had to have been there - sadly, no one from the media picked up on it!

Bottom line: Flying a jet does NOT in any way, shape or form qualify anyone to be a Governor or President!

Again, this cycle, the veterans are divided: those who are not well educated and informed will probably vote for McCain; those who are well educated and informed will probably be voting for Obama - gee, could it have something to do with being well educated and informed?

Written by: Johnathan L. Abbinett on Tuesday, Aug. 26, 2008 at 2:32 PM
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